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		<title>By: paula</title>
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		<dc:creator>paula</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 May 2010 17:08:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow.  Great answer.  I&#039;m gonna try it with the leftover batter that&#039;s been sitting in my fridge the past two weeks.  
As for the &quot;aged&quot; batter going back into the new batter batch--if it were just for me I&#039;d be all for it, but we&#039;re on good terms with the health department right now, and we definitely don&#039;t want to rock the boat.  
I&#039;ll definitely try the fit-fit, though I&#039;m not much of a sweet fan either.  I especially like your idea of doing some clarified butter infusions--maybe some truffles???? I know a guy--yes, even here in NW Arkansas....
Thanks, and keep up the good work, crazy person on the internet!
Paula</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow.  Great answer.  I&#8217;m gonna try it with the leftover batter that&#8217;s been sitting in my fridge the past two weeks.<br />
As for the &#8220;aged&#8221; batter going back into the new batter batch&#8211;if it were just for me I&#8217;d be all for it, but we&#8217;re on good terms with the health department right now, and we definitely don&#8217;t want to rock the boat.<br />
I&#8217;ll definitely try the fit-fit, though I&#8217;m not much of a sweet fan either.  I especially like your idea of doing some clarified butter infusions&#8211;maybe some truffles???? I know a guy&#8211;yes, even here in NW Arkansas&#8230;.<br />
Thanks, and keep up the good work, crazy person on the internet!<br />
Paula</p>
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		<title>By: michael</title>
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		<dc:creator>michael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 May 2010 18:51:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Paula,

Thanks for the kind words.

I don&#039;t have any direct experience with this matter of crepes, but I don&#039;t see any reason why you shouldn&#039;t be able to turn your seasoned batter into a starter. Sugar (honey) actually tends to make yeasts more active, and many a professional starter is juiced with all sorts of extra sugar, usually from fruit or fruit juice (the trade-off is that a more active starter burns through its fuel faster, but that is not necessarily a concern in a high-volume setting). My starter recipe is minimalist, but you&#039;ll see plenty out there that call for added sugar in some form.

Salt technically retards yeast, but not to the point where the relatively small amount of salt in any standard galette recipe will make much of a difference. A small amount of butter shouldn&#039;t hurt anything either. Really, it&#039;s hard for any flour-and-water product not to eventually turn into a starter with the proper encouragement, since making levain, like curing, cheesemaking or aging a steak, is basically allowing something to rot within acceptable parameters. And everything rots. Mmm.

Now, if it were me running a crepe trailer, I would be tempted to just let any leftover batter sit all night in a warm place and then mix it back into the fresh stuff the next day, for that touch of sour flava, but I guess that&#039;s technically against health regulations? Or is it? I don&#039;t know - in my professional baking experience, the closest we ever got to levain was &quot;forgetting&quot; to clean the dough residue out of the floor mixer at night.

I wonder if you could make a whiteboy equivalent of &lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Injera_fit_fit&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;injera fit-fit&lt;/a&gt; with leftover buckwheat galette-type products. I bet buckwheat fit-fit with cardamom-, nutmeg- and ginger-infused clarified butter and honey and some fruit would be a pretty mean breakfast, if I were the breakfast or sweets type (I am not, but I am trying). Maybe get some molasses action in there. Basically just a deconstructed galette, of course, but hey, I am only a crazy person on the Internet, what do you expect?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Paula,</p>
<p>Thanks for the kind words.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t have any direct experience with this matter of crepes, but I don&#8217;t see any reason why you shouldn&#8217;t be able to turn your seasoned batter into a starter. Sugar (honey) actually tends to make yeasts more active, and many a professional starter is juiced with all sorts of extra sugar, usually from fruit or fruit juice (the trade-off is that a more active starter burns through its fuel faster, but that is not necessarily a concern in a high-volume setting). My starter recipe is minimalist, but you&#8217;ll see plenty out there that call for added sugar in some form.</p>
<p>Salt technically retards yeast, but not to the point where the relatively small amount of salt in any standard galette recipe will make much of a difference. A small amount of butter shouldn&#8217;t hurt anything either. Really, it&#8217;s hard for any flour-and-water product not to eventually turn into a starter with the proper encouragement, since making levain, like curing, cheesemaking or aging a steak, is basically allowing something to rot within acceptable parameters. And everything rots. Mmm.</p>
<p>Now, if it were me running a crepe trailer, I would be tempted to just let any leftover batter sit all night in a warm place and then mix it back into the fresh stuff the next day, for that touch of sour flava, but I guess that&#8217;s technically against health regulations? Or is it? I don&#8217;t know &#8211; in my professional baking experience, the closest we ever got to levain was &#8220;forgetting&#8221; to clean the dough residue out of the floor mixer at night.</p>
<p>I wonder if you could make a whiteboy equivalent of <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Injera_fit_fit" rel="nofollow">injera fit-fit</a> with leftover buckwheat galette-type products. I bet buckwheat fit-fit with cardamom-, nutmeg- and ginger-infused clarified butter and honey and some fruit would be a pretty mean breakfast, if I were the breakfast or sweets type (I am not, but I am trying). Maybe get some molasses action in there. Basically just a deconstructed galette, of course, but hey, I am only a crazy person on the Internet, what do you expect?</p>
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		<title>By: paula</title>
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		<dc:creator>paula</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 May 2010 13:15:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi-
I really enjoy your site, having found it in my search for buckwheat sourdough starter recipes/instructions.  Maybe you could advise me on something?

Here&#039;s my situation:  My husband and I just opened a little mobile creperie.  Our menu is built around two recipes, one sweet, flour-based, the other made exclusively of a really nice, locally-milled buckwheat flour, water, a little butter, a touch of honey and salt.  

I&#039;d like to know if I could take some of that batter and start a levain.  I know, I can just try it, but thought that if it&#039;s certain to fail because of the little bit of butter, salt or honey, I wouldn&#039;t waste my time on the daily feedings, etc.  

Also, being decidedly against wasting anything, I&#039;m looking for other ways to use up the reasonable amounts of leftover batter.  If you have any suggestions, they&#039;d be appreciated.  Our galettes are delicious, and we love to eat them, but variety is the vice of life.

Cheers,
Paula</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi-<br />
I really enjoy your site, having found it in my search for buckwheat sourdough starter recipes/instructions.  Maybe you could advise me on something?</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s my situation:  My husband and I just opened a little mobile creperie.  Our menu is built around two recipes, one sweet, flour-based, the other made exclusively of a really nice, locally-milled buckwheat flour, water, a little butter, a touch of honey and salt.  </p>
<p>I&#8217;d like to know if I could take some of that batter and start a levain.  I know, I can just try it, but thought that if it&#8217;s certain to fail because of the little bit of butter, salt or honey, I wouldn&#8217;t waste my time on the daily feedings, etc.  </p>
<p>Also, being decidedly against wasting anything, I&#8217;m looking for other ways to use up the reasonable amounts of leftover batter.  If you have any suggestions, they&#8217;d be appreciated.  Our galettes are delicious, and we love to eat them, but variety is the vice of life.</p>
<p>Cheers,<br />
Paula</p>
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		<title>By: TonyT</title>
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		<dc:creator>TonyT</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Mar 2010 01:21:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Day three and it smells worse than limburger. No foam either, what gives?</description>
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		<title>By: michael</title>
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		<dc:creator>michael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Jun 2008 02:54:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ah, the Black Hills. The good ol&#039; Paha Sapa. Beats Iowa any day.

Anyway, first of all, I don&#039;t know anything about whether King Arthur&#039;s sourdough kits will produce a real starter, but what I do know is that you don&#039;t need them. It&#039;s easy enough to do it without a kit.

Second, yes, I am saying we use something found everywhere in nature. Natural yeasts are in the air, on flour, on your skin, and everywhere else. They made those ancient starters somehow, after all. As far as how you do it, I wrote complete instructions in the post about how to get an active starter from nothing more than plain old flour and water. It shouldn&#039;t take much more than a week.

Third, if you want a buckwheat starter, you can either use buckwheat flour from the beginning (i.e. replace regular flour with buckwheat flour in my starter recipe) OR, if you don&#039;t want to use so much buckwheat flour initially, once you have a healthy starter made with regular flour going, you can start feeding the starter with buckwheat flour exclusively. After a couple of feedings, buckwheat will be the dominant element of the starter. 

It bears remembering that yeast will happily eat any kind of flour, so a starter can be easily converted to whole wheat, buckwheat, rye, teff or anything else you think of.

So good luck.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ah, the Black Hills. The good ol&#8217; Paha Sapa. Beats Iowa any day.</p>
<p>Anyway, first of all, I don&#8217;t know anything about whether King Arthur&#8217;s sourdough kits will produce a real starter, but what I do know is that you don&#8217;t need them. It&#8217;s easy enough to do it without a kit.</p>
<p>Second, yes, I am saying we use something found everywhere in nature. Natural yeasts are in the air, on flour, on your skin, and everywhere else. They made those ancient starters somehow, after all. As far as how you do it, I wrote complete instructions in the post about how to get an active starter from nothing more than plain old flour and water. It shouldn&#8217;t take much more than a week.</p>
<p>Third, if you want a buckwheat starter, you can either use buckwheat flour from the beginning (i.e. replace regular flour with buckwheat flour in my starter recipe) OR, if you don&#8217;t want to use so much buckwheat flour initially, once you have a healthy starter made with regular flour going, you can start feeding the starter with buckwheat flour exclusively. After a couple of feedings, buckwheat will be the dominant element of the starter. </p>
<p>It bears remembering that yeast will happily eat any kind of flour, so a starter can be easily converted to whole wheat, buckwheat, rye, teff or anything else you think of.</p>
<p>So good luck.</p>
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		<title>By: Ted Powell</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ted Powell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Jun 2008 21:19:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Aloha: mahalo nui or in Amer-English, Thanx alot for the background and in depth story of Sourdough.
I am in the &quot;Black Hills&quot; where as a wee 10 yr old flatlander from Iowa ( THEN) I was treated to my first REAL COWBOY BREAKFAST. No bagels but instead..all U can stuff into you Sourdough Pancakes. It was love at first bite. WOW!!
Now as a full timer in a RV I am back out here and have been looking for these breakfasts. So far only 1 and that is 60 miles away.
I realized I can do these and that it would be much kinder and more &#039;healthy&#039; for a PRE -DIABETIC.
I have found,before finder U, King Arthur. They have sourdough kits. but don`t mention starter Can they make a Sourdough MIX without fresh REAL STARTER? IS IT ALIVE LIKE THE HUNGRY BUGGERS FOUND IN &quot;ACTIVE YOGURT??
Lastly...are U saying we sue something already everywhere in nature rather than buying some ancient starter? if so It is the 1st instance I`ve EVER HEARD FOR DOING THAT. HOW DO U DO IT? AND IS IT FOR REAL? I MEAN IT WORKS RIGHT OFF THE STARTING LINE? ( SORRY `BOUT THE PUN BUT WHAT THE HELL?)
OH YEA...HOW DO YOU GO FROM REGULAR FLOUR STARTER TO SOMETHING MORE HEALTHFUL LIKE BUCKWHEAT FOR INSTANCE? DOES IT REQUIRE MORE TIME? DO YOU NEED MORE OF ANY NORMAL INGREDIENTS??
AGAIN, THANX FOR PUTTING THIS SITE TOGETHER BUT EVEN MORE...PAYING ATTENTION TO IT AND RESPONDING TO &quot;NORMAL&quot; UNWASHED FOLKS.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Aloha: mahalo nui or in Amer-English, Thanx alot for the background and in depth story of Sourdough.<br />
I am in the &#8220;Black Hills&#8221; where as a wee 10 yr old flatlander from Iowa ( THEN) I was treated to my first REAL COWBOY BREAKFAST. No bagels but instead..all U can stuff into you Sourdough Pancakes. It was love at first bite. WOW!!<br />
Now as a full timer in a RV I am back out here and have been looking for these breakfasts. So far only 1 and that is 60 miles away.<br />
I realized I can do these and that it would be much kinder and more &#8216;healthy&#8217; for a PRE -DIABETIC.<br />
I have found,before finder U, King Arthur. They have sourdough kits. but don`t mention starter Can they make a Sourdough MIX without fresh REAL STARTER? IS IT ALIVE LIKE THE HUNGRY BUGGERS FOUND IN &#8220;ACTIVE YOGURT??<br />
Lastly&#8230;are U saying we sue something already everywhere in nature rather than buying some ancient starter? if so It is the 1st instance I`ve EVER HEARD FOR DOING THAT. HOW DO U DO IT? AND IS IT FOR REAL? I MEAN IT WORKS RIGHT OFF THE STARTING LINE? ( SORRY `BOUT THE PUN BUT WHAT THE HELL?)<br />
OH YEA&#8230;HOW DO YOU GO FROM REGULAR FLOUR STARTER TO SOMETHING MORE HEALTHFUL LIKE BUCKWHEAT FOR INSTANCE? DOES IT REQUIRE MORE TIME? DO YOU NEED MORE OF ANY NORMAL INGREDIENTS??<br />
AGAIN, THANX FOR PUTTING THIS SITE TOGETHER BUT EVEN MORE&#8230;PAYING ATTENTION TO IT AND RESPONDING TO &#8220;NORMAL&#8221; UNWASHED FOLKS.</p>
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		<title>By: michael</title>
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		<dc:creator>michael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 May 2008 09:58:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, you might be amazed by the bottled water thing. I noticed when I first made hummus here. I start with dried chickpeas, and with the tap water here, no matter how long I boiled them, they never attained the sort of creamy texture hummus demands. They just sort of fell apart while remaining a bit crunchy. Distilled water solved the problem.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, you might be amazed by the bottled water thing. I noticed when I first made hummus here. I start with dried chickpeas, and with the tap water here, no matter how long I boiled them, they never attained the sort of creamy texture hummus demands. They just sort of fell apart while remaining a bit crunchy. Distilled water solved the problem.</p>
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		<title>By: Sarx &#187; He&#8217;s moved</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sarx &#187; He&#8217;s moved</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 May 2008 01:01:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] point your reading eyes to this essay on Sourdough as a prime sample of enjoyable food [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Huw</title>
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		<dc:creator>Huw</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 May 2008 01:00:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hmmm.  Hard water and Legumes.  I&#039;ve never put that together.  Dang.  Next time I try &quot;Boston Baked Beans&quot; I&#039;m going to try bottle water.

Speed is an issue with production, although most of the &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.yelp.com/biz/astoria-bagel-shop-and-deli-astoria&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;better bagels I knew&lt;/a&gt; in NYC could not be confused with &quot;Mass Produced&quot;.  Still - speed is better.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hmmm.  Hard water and Legumes.  I&#8217;ve never put that together.  Dang.  Next time I try &#8220;Boston Baked Beans&#8221; I&#8217;m going to try bottle water.</p>
<p>Speed is an issue with production, although most of the <a href="http://www.yelp.com/biz/astoria-bagel-shop-and-deli-astoria" rel="nofollow">better bagels I knew</a> in NYC could not be confused with &#8220;Mass Produced&#8221;.  Still &#8211; speed is better.</p>
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		<title>By: Barri</title>
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		<dc:creator>Barri</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 May 2008 23:47:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s the water. It&#039;s definitely the water.</description>
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